17 comments

  • hermannj314 8 minutes ago
    For years we were told trans-oceanic communication was best done with messages in bottles and suddenly even those are being intercepted.

    Finally time to switch to protonmail.

  • apt-apt-apt-apt 1 hour ago
    It'd be surprising if we found it on the moon, but how is it surprising that something fell 7 miles until it hit the floor
  • cbisnett 1 hour ago
    What’s the chance this was dropped off one of the research vessels at some point? It seems unlikely to drift given it sank to the bottom.
  • edwardtay 1 hour ago
    This is simultaneously depressing and darkly impressive - human pollution has literally reached the deepest point on Earth.

    A few thoughts:

    1. The preservation at those depths must be incredible. No UV degradation, minimal biological activity, near-freezing temps. That bottle could last centuries or millennia down there.

    2. How did it even get there? The Mariana Trench is ~7 miles deep. Did it sink naturally, or was there ocean current transport involved? The logistics of trash reaching that depth are fascinating.

    3. What's the microplastic situation? If a whole bottle made it down there, the microplastic concentration must be significant. Are we seeing bioaccumulation in deep-sea organisms?

    4. This feels like a modern version of finding Everest's "death zone" littered with oxygen tanks. Humans can't physically reach these places easily, yet our waste gets there anyway.

    5. Any monitoring/tracking efforts? Can we trace where this stuff originates? Ocean currents are complex but somewhat predictable.

    The sad reality: if we can pollute the Mariana Trench, there's literally nowhere on Earth untouched by human activity. Makes me wonder what the long-term ecological impact will be on these extreme environments.

    • delecti 8 minutes ago
      The bottle in question seems to be glass, so many of those questions aren't really relevant. Glass doesn't degrade much from UV light, or at all from biological activity, whether on land or under 7 miles of ocean. Glass is denser than water, so it sank.
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  • gnabgib 1 hour ago
    2020 Commercial submarine trips to the bottom of the Marianas Trench (103 points, 66 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22702000

    2019 Mariana Trench: Deepest-ever sub dive finds plastic bag (169 points, 126 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19899374

    2019 In Mariana Trench, every animal tested had plastic in its gut (57 points, 3 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19302531

    2018 Plastic Bag Found at the Bottom of World's Deepest Ocean Trench (359 points, 326 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17057305

  • patrickmay 17 minutes ago
    Time for a remake of "The Gods Must Be Crazy" with octopi.
    • rwmj 10 minutes ago
      octopodes
  • sowbug 23 minutes ago
    The article mentions thalassophobia, which is my new vocabulary word for today. It means fear of large bodies of water.
    • andy99 19 minutes ago
      I found that to be really bad writing

        When it comes to exploring the deep sea, unless you suffer from thalassophobia (the fear of large bodies of water), it can be quite fascinating.
      
      What purpose does this serve, other than to introduce a word that has no future relevance in the article. It’s just an empty sentence padding the word count.
  • anonymousiam 38 minutes ago
    Perhaps it was tossed overboard by somebody on the support vessel...
  • amelius 1 hour ago
    I would be more surprised if stuff like that would not find its way to places like that.
    • eimrine 1 hour ago
      I would like to see some movie like unresponsible guy throws his bottle to somewhere than some natural power moves it.
    • cap11235 1 hour ago
      And it's not like there is anything (other than submersibles) that might cause it to find its way out again.
  • someothherguyy 1 hour ago
    different source that loads without javascript https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/oct/12/oceanographe...

    (lacking details on the bottle itself)

  • meisel 1 hour ago
    I'm curious what objects do/don't survive at the water pressure. I guess bottles are strong enough
    • UniverseHacker 20 minutes ago
      Solids and liquids mostly don’t compress so as a general rule most can handle those pressures without experiencing any real mechanical stress, as they instantly provide a perfectly matching internal pressure that balances out the forces to zero.

      It’s mostly things that contain gases that can get crushed by high pressure. Almost any type of closed cell foam for example, will either collapse to a small size or crack and crumble apart depending on how rigid it is.

      Living things tend to get harmed by pressure changes because they have compressible gasses and/or biological compartments that contain things that experience phase changes between gas and liquid at different pressures.

    • fogleman 1 hour ago
      Presumably it was open & empty, so it's just a piece of glass surviving...
      • dmurray 1 hour ago
        Even so, wouldn't you expect that you could crush an open empty beer bottle by putting a heavy enough weight on it? A human can't do it, but I would expect an elephant can.
        • bracketfocus 1 hour ago
          The pressure inside the bottle is the same as the outside. So it’s not the same as stomping on an empty bottle.
        • RajT88 44 minutes ago
          There is quite a lot of pressure put outside from the beer of a full bottle, but that little bit of air is probably enough to cause it to implode at some point.

          I'll be honest; I have no idea how to estimate that. I'm sure there are folks on here who can (and might). It's probably not as deep as you'd think.

        • FL410 1 hour ago
          But the forces are the same all around the bottle (again assuming it is open)
        • jdmoreira 1 hour ago
          That's not how pressure works if it's opened. The forces balance out
        • rags2riches 58 minutes ago
          The bottle wouldn't be empty though.
  • CrzyLngPwd 1 hour ago
    But did they pick it up?
    • bch 1 hour ago
      Not worth it for the $0.10 return. Put more down there to incentivize.
  • fnord77 29 minutes ago
    I have a feeling someone dropped this bottle on purpose when they were over the trench. They knew what they were doing. Note the lack of other littler.
  • jordanpg 1 hour ago
    I agree it's something of a bummer, but why is this surprising or "bizarre"?
  • malux85 1 hour ago
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    • aorth 51 minutes ago
      I don't see any ads on Firefox (Android) with uBlock Origin.

      That site seems horrible though. Random words in the body like reddit are hyperlinks to SEO landing pages on the same site. And there must be a better (original) source for the story than this...

    • drnick1 25 minutes ago
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  • casey2 1 hour ago
    Literal navalgazing